but deadly on fleas. so askr veanfoage,nt the flea specialist, for effective, but gentle flea control. breaking news. pope benedict arrived in scotland and meets with the queen this morning on the first papal state visit to britain in nearly 500 years. the trip is already being plagued by controversy. we are there live. nbc news exclusive, iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad speaks out about the fate of the two remainiining american hikers being held in iran and the plans to build an islamic center and mosque near ground zero. michael jackson's mother and children sue his concert promoter claiming they pushed the pop star too hard to rehearse in the final days. details today thursday, rehearse in the final days. details today thursday, september 16th, 2010.

captions paid for by nbc-universal television >> from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and meredith vieira, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm meredith vieira. >> and i'm matt lauer. pope benedict's trip to great britain is as controversial as it is historic. the pope actually visited there in 1992, but this is the first time a pope has been invited by the queen or king since britain's break from rome in the 16th century. >> he made his way to the queen's official residence in scotland. scores of people and military marching bands line the streets. but not everyone is happy about this trip, given the catholic church's record on child abuse. a live report from scotland, straight ahead. new surveillance video of the connecticut mother brutally murdered along with her two

daughters in a deadly home invasion as she withdrew money to pay off her alleged captors. you will see that and hear the 911 call placed by the bank's manager and tell you why some are now asking if the police could have done more to save that family. on a very different note, is the popular reality show "teen mom" glamorizing teen pregnancy, giving teens ideas about having kids of their own. we will talk with two of the show's stars. and first, talking about the pope's historic visit to the united kingdom. stephanie gosk is in scotland with that. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, meredith. the pope arrived on board a jet with the call sign "shepherd 1." on the flight over, he addressed the abuse scandal with reporters and said the catholic church didn't act fast enough or decisively enough. that's one of many controversial issues he has to deal with in his four-day trip here.

it's the first official state visit by a pope to britain in nearly 500 years. greeted by prince philip and scottish clergy, he made his way along the royal mile to be received by the queen. >> they can be transcended and a greater mutual trust established. >> reporter: the pope's meeting with the queen is a rare event, and this exchange of gifts a gesture britons catholics hope will mend a rift when king henry viii wanted a divorce in the 16th century. >> i shall denounce the pope as a heretic and marry whom i please. >> reporter: he wt on to marry five more wives and had an ongoing feud with the vatican that led to a permanent split. >> for hundreds of years, it has been illegal to be a catholic in this country, and he has been persona non grata since the 16th century.

so it gets the healing back again. >> reporter: the faithful in scotland are flocking to catch a glimpse of pope benedict and the bullet proof popemobile, like this kids. how fast does it go? >> 450 miles an hour. >> reporter: the popemobile goes 150 miles an hour an hour? but not everyone is welcoming. some are getting ready for a confrontation. >> we are urging the pope to open the vatican secret sex files. >> reporter: elsewhere in the catholic world, there is anger about the lingering sex abuse scandal that has rocked the church for nearly a decade. >> the church has made a mess of its response to incidences of child abuse. >> reporter: there is resentment of the pope's inflexibility on the issue of women priests. >> there's always controversy, and when he arrives, the sun comes out and those clouds disperse and people really take

to him. ♪ >> reporter: scottish singing sensation, susan boyle, can't wait to meet the pope later today. >> so sing for his holiness is a dream beyond anyone's imagination. >> reporter: her catholic faith has carried her through difficult times, she says, and she's ready to give pope benedict the performance of her life. the trip began with even more controversy. one of the pope's chief aides, cardinal walter kasper, gave an interview to a catholic magazine where he compared london's heathrow airport to landing in a third world country. a lot of people were very offended by those comments. late last night, the cardinal pulled out of the trip. the vatican says he isn't feeling well. meredith. >> thank you very much. it is 7:05. here's matt. to iran and an nbc exclusive. president mahmoud ahmadinejad is speaking out about the hiker, sarah shourd and the fate of her two companions still being jailed in that country.

andrea mitchell sat down with him on wednesday. she's in tehran with the latest on this. andrea, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. iran's president pressed hard for the release of sarah shourd, partly as a gesture to america just before he travels to new york for next week's u.n. meeting. on all other subjects, he was confrontational. thank you, mr. president. iran's president, mahmoud ahmadinejad is taking credit for sarah shourd's release but said the fate of her fiance, shane bauer, and their friend, josh fattal, both still in jail, is not up to him. >> translator: i think we should let the judge and court decide about the case and this will be help to all of them. >> one suggestion from a spokesman on twitter, he tweeted

you could take the two men on your airplane to new york when you go to the united nations. what's your response to that? >> translator: that was a good proposal, if they had not violated our border, they would have been at their homes for over a year, for more than a year. >> reporter: iran's government has been encouraging protests in tehran, trying to exploited anger against the u.s. because of threats to burn the koran and the controversy over the proposed islamic cultural center near ground zero. president ahmadinejad, blames all this on what he calls a zionist conspiracy. >> translator: we believe there is a minority in the united states and they are zionists. they have no religion. they believe in no religion. >> there are jewish leaders working with muslim leaders to build the cultural center in new york city. there's no evidence of elite

what you call zionists groups against it. fidel castro, your old friend, fi dell castro, criticized you for your comments about israel and -- >> translator: i need to talk, to speak. >> excuse me. >> translator: i think you should finish first, and then you should let me explain. >> speak. >> translator: what you see in islamic countries is what the people are against, that ugly behavior. they are not against the people of the united states, they are not against americans. >> we see no evidence that there is any such zionist con spour si. >> reporter: he was equally combative about the iaea, which sharply rebuked iran this week for denying access to the two leading experts on the weapons inspection team. >> translator: they are under the pressure from the united states and the allies and the expressed political views.

this is not a technical or a legal approach towards the question. it is part of the hostility of the united states against our people. >> with all due respect, mr. president, if there's nothing to hide, if this is a peaceful nuclear program as iran says, why not let all of the inspectors who know the scientific and technical details? why not let them in if it's a peaceful program? >> translator: they go beyond the law. we say that it is against the procedures, and we have evidence, and the evidence is there in the iaea. >> reporter: so iran's president is showing no sign of compromise on that nuclear standoff, even as he heads to the united nations and the world powers unite against him. matt? >> andrea mitchell in tehran for

us this morning. andrea, thanks very much, as always. it's 7:09. here's meredith. now to politics and the washington establishment still being rattled by the outcome of the primary season highlighted by tuesday's surprising win in delaware by tea party backed candidate christine o'donnell. nbc's kelly o'donnell is in washington with more on that. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this is day two of a short sprint to november. for a campaign that had little money and almost no staff. now, they tell me several hundred thousand has come into the website. christine o'donnell is being inundated by questions and attention about who she is and how she made her living. a lot of the criticism coming from other republicans. >> i'm hoping that when emotions settle down and the dust clears, we can move past this. >> reporter: tea party upstart christine o'donnell is trying to change minds fast, to give

republican elites among her biggest detractors on board. >> i think they heard the message, they received the wake-up call. >> reporter: but isn't getting the usual political courtesy from a fellow republican, the nine-term incumbent congressman she defeated. >> he won't endorse me. he says, she has governor palin, why does she need mike castle? >> reporter: leveraging her new populist power, she calls for party uniyit with a smile and calls out a big republican name. >> i am perplexed about what's going on with karl rove. >> reporter: the bush advisor, rove claims o'donnell has, quote, serious character problems. >> i wonder, does he want a democrat in that seat? >> reporter: democratic candidate chris coons. >> she doesn't represent the sorts of values, the policies, the values i think are in delaware's best interests. >> reporter: liberal blolers and media outlets are sick lating old tv clips when she appeared as a conservative pundit. 14 years ago, she was on an mtv documentary about sex, to

promote abstinence. >> the bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. >> reporter: today, she's surprised it's even being discussed. >> i'm in my 40s now, i've matured in a lot of my positions and a lot of the way i present my beliefs. >> reporter: o'donnell had also bone a frequent guest of bill maher on abc's "politically incorrect." >> what i was doing then was not running for office, i was helping bill maher get ratings. i don't see the relevance in this campaign. this campaign is about getting our country back on track. >> reporter: she says she was doing her job when she was doing the media appearances because she was working as a media consultant for conservative nonprofit groups. she says doing that kind of work has also led to some of the financial problems she has had about paying packses and having trouble with her mortgage. she said that kind of work is

about falling on hard times and she says many voters understand that economic difficulty and have rallied around her. >> thank you very much. south carolina republican jim demint has endorsed many candidates, including christine o'donnell. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> the "new york times" notes the clear divide within the republican party saying, i'm quoting here, if ever there was proof the tea party and the republican party do not necessarily go hand in hand, it is christine o'donnell's victory over the establishment. it goes on to say you could be a model for how the two might co-exist. how important is it to you this gap be bridged? >> it's important because the tea party represents a broad cross-section of the american people. actually, it's a small part of an american awakening of people who are concerned about the debt, the spending, the massive growth of government, and the takeovers.

really, what we're doing here in washington has united america. when i go to a tea party, 40% of the people there are independents and democrats. what i'm trying to do is help the republicans here in washington understand that the tea parties don't want to be republicans. we as republicans need to embrace the ideas of balancing the budget, of trying to return some fiscal sanity here to washington. i'm not as concerned about what christine o'donnell said 14 years ago as i am that she's going to help us balance our budget here in washington. >> but, senator, if you're trying to help your party, your party would argue that you're really hurting the party, that these kinds of candidates cannot win general elections. >> the important thing to me first is to save our country. it's really that critical. these prifal political labels do not mean as much right now when we're fighting for the survival versus the bankruptcy of our

country. i think the american people in delaware, all over the country, want to see that sense of urgency from the people who represent them in washington. they're not concerned whether the republicans get the majority or not. they want people in washington who understand that balancing the checkbook is not an extreme idea. >> but practically speaking, do you believe these candidates can win in november? >> meredith, they told me marco rubio couldn't win. and he is blowing it away in florida because he's telling people the truth. they said the same thing about pat toomey in pennsylvania and rand paul in kentucky. they're well ahead in the polls because people want a change in washington. you really can't change washington unless you change the people who are here. i think that's what you saw in delaware. people are looking at what these candidates are going to do when they get to washington, and they're ready to throw out the bums and bring in new folks. i think we're going to do that

in november. >> are you ready, if these candidates were to be elected or if the republicans were to come into power or take over congress, obviously, control of congress, are you ready to take on a leadership role to challenge the current republican leadership? >> i like our current leadership. mitch is doing a great job and so is john cornyn with our senate committee. i've got the leadership role i want. i am head of the conservative steering committee within the senate. i'm managing the senate conservatives fund, which by the way is senateconservatives.com if folks want to help some of these candidates. i want to support our leadership team. what we're trying to do now is get a group of republicans that provide a clear contrast with the pelosi/obama agenda, which is massive debt and government growth. >> before i let you go, very very quickly, you're up for re-election this november and your democratic opponent, alvin greene, has said repeatedly, he would want to debate you.

is that going to happen? will you debate him? >> we have no debate scheduled. i have a couple of opponents in south carolina. meredith, my main opponents are here in the white house and in congress, so that where i'm spending most of my time. >> that's a no. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> let's head to the newsdesk for the top stories. good morning, ann. >> good morning to you, matt and meredith. we begin with help that may soon be on the way for small businesses. today, the senate is expected to pass a bill providing more lending for small businesses and incentives to hire new workers. on the other hand, new figures show the number of foreclosed homes jumped in august. the number is up 25% from a year ago and is at the highest level since the mortgage crisis began three years ago. the obama administration is taking a tough stand against china over trade and currency. cnbc's mel lisa lee is at the new york stock exchange with more on this. what are the details on this? >> ann, today, u.s. treasury

secretary tim geithner is expected to make his strongest remarks to date on how the u.s. can and should force china to allow its currency, the yuan, to appreciate. a weaker yuan helps chinese exporters and is seen as contributing to the trade imbalance which is tipping in china's favor, meaning china is selling more goods to the u.s. than the other way around. china already pledged in june, it would allow more flexibility and since then the yewian has apprecia appreciated a percent but not enough for some lawmakers. >> thank you. hundreds of people have been evacuated in california, where a wildfire destroyed more than 6,000 acres and destroyed at least one home there. colorado governor arnold schwarzenegger toured the san bruno neighborhood wednesday to see the devastation there fr lastfirsthand and he said a disaster like that must never happen again. tributes to longtime nbc news man edwin newman who died in england.

over 30 years newman was a familiar and trusted face on nbc news appearing on "today," "meet the press" and other programs. tom brokaw called him a gentleman and a reassuring presence in our midst. brian williams called him one of the very best of all time. edwin newman was 91 years old. he was a big proponent of civil time in which he defined as a language not full of it trick phrase as that lost their meaning. something to consider still today. >> absolutely. thank you, ann. >> and al is off today. stephanie aams here with the forecast. >> we want to talk about igor. still a powerful storm. it eres look like it will stay offshore. here's a look at the track as we head over the next several days and it does look like it will weaken as it makes its way toward bermuda. there is the risk for rip currents starting today all of the way through the weekend anywhere from west palm beach up

here's a look at oakland. pafs of low clouds and sunny breaks in between. 70s and 80s around the bay area from san jose towards livermore. 70s for ped luma and 60s around san francisco. 72 in oakland. cool over the weekend and scattered showers sunday morning. monday we clear out with warming temperatures early next week. >> matt, over to you. >> steph, thanks very much. just ahead, the chilling >> just ahead, the chilling video of a victim taken during a home invasion in connecticut. this is "today" on nbc. [ male announcer ] how can rice production in india, affect wheat output in the u.s., the shipping industry in norway, and the rubber industry, in south america?

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7:30 on a thursday morning, the 16th of september, 2010. fall around the corner, at least in terms of a calendar. it feels like fall out there this morning. 58 degrees on the plaza. got into the 40s in the suburbs of new york city. meanwhile, inside studio 1a, i'm matt lauer, alongside meredith vieira. just ahead, michael jackson's mother and children file a wrongful death lawsuit against the singer's concert promoter accusing them of pushing the singer too hard to rehearse in his final days. details in that story coming up.

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meanwhile, petit's wife and two kids were about to be killed inside. >> reporter: in this newly released surveillance video, a clear picture, the final picture of jennifer hawke-petit, less than an hour before her death. prosecutors say petit was at a local bank withdrawing $15,000 and calmly told the bank teller her entire family was being held hostage at home. she needed the money for ransom. at 9:21 a.m., with jennifer still in the bank, the manager made a chilling call to 911. >> we have a lady, who is in our bank right now, who says that her husband and children are being held at their house, that the police are told they will kill the children and the husband. she says they are being very nice, they have their faces covered. she is petrified. >> reporter: with two reason, these two men, steven hayes and

joshua come come were terrorizing the family, beating dr. petit with a baseball bat and tying him to this pole in the basement. his two daughters were tied to their beds upstairs, all tortured overnight until the sun came up and the bank opened up. >> they're tied up, she said. she's taking $15,000 out of her credit line. they told her they wouldn't hurt anybody if she got back there with the money. she believes them. i think she's walking out now. >> reporter: officers were dispatched to the house but according to police logs, were told by their captain not to approach the house and stay back until they could set up a safe perimeter. 30 minutes after that first 911 call, still no ambulances, no fire trucks, no emergency teams who could move in. by now, jennifer was back home with the money, her family and the attackers. >> this was a small police department. it very quickly got over their heads. they fell back on their training, but in this particular situation, their training wasn't

adequate and in the time it took, lives were lost. >> reporter: william petit could hear his family being tortured upstairs.moaning and the thumbs he testified. somehow bleeding from his head, he managed to escape, his feet still bound, he hopped out of a house and made it to a neighbor's house for help. 9:55 a.m., that neighbor called 911. >> i have bill petit here, who's hurt, my neighbor. >> he's at your house? >> yes. he's right here. >> reporter: minutes later, a fireball, the suspect raped and strangle jennifer petit and burned the house down. the mother and her two daughters were all killed. >> this is probably one of the worst situations of its kind that i've ever seen. >> reporter: in court wednesday, it got ugly. steven hayes defense lawyer, who by the way, admits his client committed the crime, pointed his

finger at police, not excusing what happened. the fact was, you were too late, correct? the captain replied, if we had any indication of violence, i would have been the first one through the door. >> ion it's a particular effective line of cross-examination, if you had done your job, could you have saved my victim from your client. >> reporter: he is now in court where he shows up everyday. >> it got so emotional wednesday, the photo evidence so gruesome, the petit family, including william petit broke down in tears. the judge had to send everyone home early because the jury was sobbing. >> thank you so much. dan abrams, nbc's chief legal analyst, good morning to you. obviously talking about the responsibility the police may bear in all of this. it took them 30 minutes to set

up that permaneimeter around th petit home. in that time, the petit family was being murdered. >> no question in retrospect, the police could have and should have done more. they should have gone right to the house. the question is exactly what did they think and know at the time. i think clint is right, they used their training, they followed their protocol. but the bottom line is that this was more than just someone being held for ransom. my guess is that most of the time, in communities like this, when someone's held for ransom or kidnapped, it's domestic violence, et cetera. >> not used to this kind of violent crime. >> exactly. they would say, we had no idea. that doesn't excuse it. doesn't mean i'm sure the police are feeling very guilty for everything that happened. >> is it a wake-up call, do you think, for these communities, that they need to re-evaluate police procedure? >> maybe. let's be honest, this doesn't happen all that often. that doesn't excuse it. doesn't mean it's time for

evaluation how they do things. this can't happen. they can't have another situation. you hear that bank teller. when you listen to that call, there's no ambiguity in that teller's voice. that teller isn't saying, well, i'm not sure, maybe, it could be. that is a teller saying definitively, there is a woman who is here in the bank, who is petrified. she uses the word "petrified." when you hear that kind of language, do you think to yourself, the police ought to have gone right to the home. >> could the police department face any serious consequences of the police involved in this? >> there could be civil lawsuits. i don't think that's like lin the context of this case. there could have been departmental action. it doesn't seem that's going to happen either in this case. it is interesting, isn't it, to see the defense attorneys using this as a sword, right? the notion that the defense attorneys are now saying, aha, so you police officers might have been able to save your own client -- my client -- save the

victims from my client. it's sort of in sanity. >> what does that say to you? >> it says these defense attorneys and this defense attorney knows he's got almost no defense here in the guilt phase of the case. two phases, first phase is guilt, second phase is the penalty case where the determine if he gets the death penalty. in this phase, they're basically trying to go through the procedures, hoping that the jurors will feel some level of sympathy and then in the penalty phase making an effort to save his life. i think these defense attorneys know he is almost certainly going to be found guilty. >> william petit who lost his family says he wants the death penalty. how strong do you think his stance will affect what happens here? >> the fact he's been so adamant about pursuing the death penalty, very controversial in connecticut, almost abolished it, almost never use it. the fact that dr. petit has come forward and said so strongly that he thinks the death penalty should apply, almost certainly has led these prosecutors not to

cut a deal here, meaning not to say, as the defense attorneys wanted, life in prison, will plead guilty, prosecutor saying no. we're taking this to trial. this is such a horrible heinous crime, we want to pursue a death penalty. >> dan abrams, thank you so much. appreciate it. let's get a check of the weather, stephanie abrams in f al. >> i will take you to mexico and show you tropical storm karl right now moving through the bay of campeche and looks like it will strengthen before making a second landfall. looks like it won't affect

>> matt, over to you. >> thank you very much, stephanie. it was supposed to be michael jackson's comeback tour, but the pressure by the concert promoter pushed the singtory his death? his mother and children have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the company. natalie morales has the details on this. natalie, good morning. >> good morning to you, matt. yes, a civil action suit was filed wednesday by catherine jackson's attorney against aed, the concert promoter. the attorney saying the purpose of the suit is to prove the truth about what happened to michael jackson once and for all, but, again, this morning there are more questions than answers about what the singer was really going through in those final days. >> reporter: in a wrongful death lawsuit filled with haunting details and descriptions of michael's final days, catherine jackson and michael's three

children blame concert promoter aeg live for causing michael's death. they believe michael was pushed too far in rehearsals for his highly anticipated comeback tour despite his deteriorating health. in documents filed wednesday aeg is accused of taking control of michael's health after it hired conrad murray as michael's doctor, someone who was selected by, hired by, and controlled by aeg, says the suit. it goes on to claim aeg demanded and required that michael jackson be treated by this particular doctor to ensure that michael jackson would attend all rehearsals and shows on the tour. ♪ why, why >> reporter: according to the suit, michael did miss a rehearsal during the final week of his life, and as a result, aeg's ceo paid a visit to his home. the suit states, "aeg threatened that if jackson missed any further rehearsals, they were going to pull the plug on the show." aeg told murray that he had to

make sure jackson got to rehearsals. they said it was to be tough love and that they had read jackson the riot act. ♪ they don't really care about us ♪ >> reporter: when michael did finally make it to rehearsals late that night, witnesses confirmed that michael jackson was not himself that day, calling him visibly shaken. then at another rehearsal just days before michael's death, the suit describes michael as freezing cold and shivering. now, the suit claims aeg had a legal responsibility to treat him safely and to not put him in harm's way. catherine jackson and michael's kids believe the company breached those duties by putting its desire for massive profits from the tour over the healthç and safety of michael jackson. but the jackson estate is already sharing in some of those profits, slated to receive 90% of whatever the film makes. the civil action suit is also seeking unspecified damages for emotional distress on behalf of jackson's oldest son, prince

michael, who according to the lawsuit witnessed his father injured and dying. aeg is not commenting yet, according to the associated press's spokesperson say they haven't seen the lawsuit yet. aeg has said in the past that michael jackson died before dr. murray's contract was even signed, and dr. murray, meanwhile, has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter for jackson's death. sdroo we'll follow the story. thanks very much. just ahead, the new survey revealing what men really think. do we want to know that? up next, the fast food snack items that actually do more harm to your diet than full sized meals. igll talk about those r thafr te.isaf sized meals. right after this. ♪ [ man ] blue one. recessed lighting. it's absolutely -- blue one. ♪ [ grunts ] blue one. [ children ] blue one! blue one! [ male announcer ] the routan. the only minivan with the soul of a volkswagen. can we do it again? [ boy ] yeah! sure.

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author of "eat that not that" and madeline, nutrition director. good morning. people like these snacks, okay, here's some snacks. what's the definition of a snack? >> the definition of a snack is 150 calories with protein and come to plex carbohydrates. here,'s it replaced wit cheap fat and carbs. when you have 1500 calorie meals, i guess your snack should be 400 calories. >> a snack is what anybody wants it to be. i'm hungry, i will graze. we don't do much during the day. the comparison where things are mega sized, you look at something smaller and think that must be better. >> in the middle of the day and you want to snack and walk into a fast-food restaurant and order small fries, that's not what you should get. >> they want to take you to six meals a day. >> it's hidden fat, looks small

but the calories are really for a meal. >> we have snack items. let's start with the cinnie minis. look how small they are. they have to be good. >> 500 calories. this is two bites. one of these little ones has 125 calories. if you share it with three friends, you're okay. people look at, how many calories could it have because it's so small. >> they should rename it a cini-mini cooper. >> let's move on. >> the kfc snacker with a crispy strip. >> they were the pioneer in this area, with the whole snack idea. the problem is at 300 calories, it ends up being very close to a meal. it's basically a snack times two. >> the thing is you can get it grilled but it still is going to be way over 200 calorie, much too much for a snack. >> the angus snack wrap from mcdonald's. if you're getting red meat --

>> it's a quarter pounder. >> if you look at the lunch wrap, it's quite. the sodium is almost half of what you need in a day. >> they have yogurts and parfaits and apple dippers, they have healthy stuff. >> quizno's turkey sammy. what's the problem here? >> sammy is a cute name. 50% of the fat is saturated in terms of your requirement for the day. it's a large thing. sa sammie sounds cute but it's a meal. >> and mcflurry. if it has ice cream, it's not a snack. what's dessert, whale blubber? that is over 400 calories. >> we reached out to these companies and they each off ear variety of options, many which are lower in calories and fat. all nutritional information can be found on the company's websites respectively. what should people be eating in terms of snacks? >> in common sense, most people don't need snacks, eat three

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>> good morning. 7:56 and i want to keep our eye on 101. >> this is moment ray where the back up is. this affects the traffic because the folks are held up. when they get past the scene, the log jam is at the bottom of the screen. a lot of folks may be picking up carpoolers. 101 is a lot lighter. 260 shows the typical slow down through downtown. san mateo with heavier traffic through that area. >> it's a pretty nice day and temperatures in the low 70s and 80s inland for places like

livermore, danville and san jose near 80. 84 for morgan hill and 60s for san francisco and 70s around oakland and a quick check of the north bay. 76 for petaluma and today and tomorrow are nice. get ready for a cha showers. time is 7:57. more news after the break. [ bell rings ]

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8:00 on this thursday morning, september 16th, 2010. it is a sunny morning in the northeast. if you're about to head out, grab the umbrellas, we are expecting rain. i'm meredith vieira with matt lauer on the plaza. >> this is a popular show called "teen mom," that follows the lives of four young ladies that got pregnant during high school. some people are now saying, although a lot of people watch it, some are saying all the attention paid to the stars, if you will, of the show, actually glamourizes teen pregnancy. this is one of the couples

featured on the show. we'll get their take coming up. plus you love him, dop draper on "madman," taking his skills to the screen. we'll catch up with him. you will find out esquire magazine did a survey recently, talked to 20-year-old men and 50-year-old men and got their take on everything from role models to sex, love and marriage. we'll find out what guys are thinking in just a little while. >> fascinating. >> do you really want to know? >> fases nating. n -- fascinating. now to the news, ann curry. >> in the news, iran's president, mahmoud ahmadinejad says the two american hikers still in prison is out of his hands. during an exclusive interview wednesday with nbc's chief correspondent, andrea mitchell, ahmadinejad took credit for the release of hiker sarah shourd but says it's up to the judicial system to decide if fellow

hikers, josh fattal and shane bauer are guilty of straying into iran 13 months ago. the pope is in britain. the first time since the 16th century. pope benedict made one of his strongest admissions today saying the church failed to deal quickly or decisively enough with priests who abuse children. three officers will face criminal charges for the beating of a motorcyclist caught on tape. the video also shows one of the officers moving the dash camera so the images are no longer visible. in the gulf of mexico, the blown-out well could be permanently sealed this weekend nearly five months after the leak began. here's brian williams with what's coming up on "nightly

news." >> some are calling what's going on now the gold rush of 2010. some don't trust currency or any other savings method. they're buying just gold. maybe that's what's pushing the price of gold to an all time high. we will look at it next when we join you for "nightly news." ann, now back to you. >> thanks so much. now 8:02. a check of the weather, stephanie abrams in for al. >> we have a woman here from good old sweet home, alabama. give everyone a nice southern hello. >> hello. >> we'll take you to catalina island. it will be beautiful there. fog and a a high of 70 degrees. we do have a complex of storms near the ohio river valley where the worst storms are located. well, we are expecting a pretty nice day around the bay area, at least later on for the afternoon, some patchy low clouds left over for the morning. 65 around lunchtime, low 80s

around livermore and concord. tomorrow temperature-wise, about the same, though we'll see increasing high clouds and a chance of showers, especially for the north bay moving through the weekend. first time in new york from texas, mean green, what does that mean? >> north texas is playing westpoint this saturday, expecting a big win. >> big matchup over there. meredith back to you. >> thank you very much. is mtv glamourizing a hit show "teen mom." we'll talk with two of the shows stars right after this. hey, you made your own lunch. yep! (mom) i'm so proud of you. the bus is here, gotta go mom. okay hunny, have a great day. look in your bag, made you something. (announcer) it's more than just that great peanut taste, choosing jif is a simple way to show someone

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does it glamour rise teen pregnancy. we'll talk to two of the shows, but first, this. >> reporter:t the latest of reality tv, the latest guilty pleasure. >> you hit momma. >> reporter: mtv "teen mom" follows four high schoolers with the perils of being teen parents and the hardships of a place to live. >> i have to find a place to live and a daycare. >> reporter: it's a look what happens after labor and delivery, when the real work starts. >> it seems like everyday what you go through, it's just crazy to me. you honestly like -- i don't know how you do it. >> reporter: in a struggle with babies and boyfriend, the young women are getting a slice of celebrities as cover girls on magazines. one question, is it glamorizing teen pregnancy. >> to say it's glamour rising teen pregnancy is like saying the biggest loser glamourizes

obesity. >> reporter: she gave up her baby, a decision that's haunting her boyfriend, tyler. >> she deserves better than me. >> reporter: the couple chose their adoptive parents after watching a youtube video. >> we want to take you an opportunity to get a glimpse into our lives and get to know us better. >> reporter: kiley is now 16 months old, and they say they will start a family eventually. >> hi, happy birthday! >> i have to talk maybe about me seeing him like a day a week more. >> reporter: one young mom and dad now battling over custody. >> i'm texting ryan to tell him i'm not changing our custody agreement. >> i think i will take her to court over it. >> reporter: a sobering look at parenthood, through the eyes of a teen.

nbc news, new york. >> caitlin and her fiance are featured on mtv's "teen mom." good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> before we get to the message of what this shows sends or does not send, why do you think it's so popular? a lot of people watch this every week? >> i think people can relate to it a lot. more and more, teen pregnancy is obviously a rising issue. i think people can relate to a lot of things that the girls on the show go through, so far as being teenagers and moms? >> also, i have a lot of mothers tell me, i sit down with my children and watch this show. they think it's a good show to show their children, if you have sex and pregnant, these are all the struggles you will go through. >> a cautionary tale. >> it is a no holds barred look at challenges you and the other couples have faced and the moms as well. there is this feeling among some people, in some i was, this may

glamourize teen pregnancy. you're laughing. why do you laugh at that? >> i feel like if you sit down and watch the show, i don't think like -- i don't think it shows any single thing of glamoglamor in teen pregnancy. maybe when i introduce you and say two of the stars of the show. maybe that's my fault. we shouldn't say two of the stars of the show, say one of the couples featured on the show. >> yeah. >> when all of a sudden, you start showing up on magazine covers and stuff that happens in this celebrity crazy world, people say, wait a minute, maybe they are gaining something in this. do you think that's part of the problem? >> i don't think it's glamorizing anything because all the struggles are real that they go through on the show and it's real and no way it is

glamorizing anything. >> maybe when you go off and do things like this show or magazine shoot or conducting an interview, you have to constantly remember to remind people why you're there in the first place and it is a cautionary tale? >> right. you have to. >> well -- >> i mean, you can't just let it get to be where you're reality show stars. >> we don't look at ourselves that way. >> absolutely not. >> you made a very tough decision in your lives that has been documented in this show, to give your daughter, carly up for adoption. she is now 16 months old. do you have any second thoughts about that decision? >> actually, i don't. >> not at all. >> i mean, i get stuff everyday that rewards me for our decision like seeing stuff that happens back at home, wow, i'm so lucky she's not here right now. i'm so happy she's in a very good place. >> we have peace going to sleep at night, knowing what we shows with her, the life she's living, gives us peace.

>> you're both still in high school, i think both plan on graduating this year. we wish you luck with that. if there are other teenagers out there going through what you're going through in a much more private way, what would you say to them? >> i would say to talk to people, go to counseling if you need to. i know when i was pregnant and i was young and knowing what i want to do, probably, i felt like i was alone all the time, because i never talked to anybody. i feel like my number one thing i would say is to always think about your child before yourself. >> put them first. >> in every decision you make in your life, from the point you're pregnant to the point that they're old enough to move out on their own. >> you're confident you have done that? >> oh, yeah. >> nice to have you both here. >> thank you. >> thanks very much. we won't call you stars from now on. >> no. >> up next, madman john hamm, on his new role on the big screen. thank you for calling usa prime credit. my name

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and be honest with them. that's why i love being a home loan expert! ♪ golden globe winner jon hamm is best known for his role as madman. now, he's taking on a new role on the big screen trying to take down ben afflec's bank robbing gang in the town. >> you and your boys didn't just rob a market for a box of quarters. no, you decided to bang it out at the north end at 9:00 in the morning with assault rifles. you dummies shot a guard. now, you're like a half off sale. >> i like that boston accent. very good. >> had to sneak it in somewhere. everybody else got to do one.

>> for those that know you as a suave ad executive, what made you take on this role with ben affleck? >> it's back to the '70s action movie, bare bones. action movie. >> that appealed to you. >> absolutely. we don't have a lot of car chases on madmen and i got to do a lot of different stuff. >> in preparing for the role, you got to work directly with an fbi consultant who had a history and actually arrested some of the guys on this film. >> there was a lot of prior relationships with a lot of the folks on the set. it was very funny to realize a lot of those guys knew each other. it's a very small town and all recognized each other.

>> what was that relationship like? >> what's past is past. they paid their debts and now trying to earn an honest living. they definitely were scrutinized a little heavier than most. >> i want to congratulate you on the nomination for best actor. does that get old after a while? >> it certainly never gets old. it is always thrilling when you realize people are watching the show and enjoying the show. it's nice when you get recognized for your peers for doing something above and beyond. >> this season, you're character is really going through a hard time, divorced now, a drunk essentially, not making it with the ladies the way you used to, they're not as interested in you. are we going to continue to see this downward spiral or is there a moment of redemption here? >> i hope so. >> you don't know? >> i know how the season ends. i won't spoil it for those who want to watch.

it's been a tough season. what happens is this guy lived a pretty rough life and that's taking its toll. >> there was an obsession about this show, people talk about it all the time, throw "mad men" parties, even dressing like the characters. what do you think that obsession is about? why do you think it's happened? >> for brian, he has a huge crush on me. >> williams, are you listening? i think he does. >> i think that's what that's about, particularly. >> bad, actually. >> it's interesting, because our show is very rich and has a lot of detail. people can focus on it and really not only get involved in the story but involved in historical aspects of the show and that richness, i think, lends itself to a more sort of full viewing experience and people really get into it. >> could you have even predicted this four years ago? >> absolutely not. no way. we knew we were working on

something special and exciting and everybody that signed on to do the pilot loved the script. that was four seasons ago, to have predicted this kind of run away success is beyond the pale. >> do you ever look back, when you were in your early 20s, go out to hollywood, a kid from st. louis and toiling in the trenches and couldn't get a job, couldn't get arrested and this has catapulted you to real superstar come to in a lot of people's eyes including mine. do you ever look back and say, i can't quite believe i am where i am? >> absolutely. it's amazing 5, 10 years ago how different life was, three years ago, how different life was. the great thing about it, i've been able to achieve what i've been able to achieve, something i'm very proud of, not only with "mad men," but with the town and "30 rock" and things i've been able to do and thrilled to be a part of. ire haven

i haven't had to compromise and do anything i didn't want to do. that part is particularly nice. >> i have to congratulate you, just named international "man of the year" by british "gq" magazine. you should be wearing a cape or something. that's a big deal. >> it's very nice, nice when people say nice things about you, i suppose. >> you're blurbing. thank you very much. the town opens tomorrow and now here's matt. >> meredith, thanks very much. the surprising finale of nbc's hit show, "america's got talent." christine welker has the details. good morning to you. >> good morning to you, matt. 10-year-old jackie evancho, a pint-sized singer with a voice well beyond her years received much of the attention but in the end, jackie didn't take home the title. ♪ >> reporter: from the moment she opened her 10-year-old mouth and seemingly this seasoned soprano voice came out -- ♪

>> reporter: jackie evancho stole the show and a lot of hearts on nbc's "america's got talent." she was the one to beat. >> i've never seen a vocal performance like that on this show. >> reporter: once america weighed in with phone-in votes, a new star was born. >> michael grim! >> reporter: michael grimm, a virtual unknown from the swamp lands of mississippi claimed the top spot. his face said it all. >> i had no clue i would win. i thought jackie would win. when i got up there, i was blessed to have made it as far as i made it. ♪ >> reporter: but grimm gave an unforgettable final performance. >> michael grimm had the best performance last night, being in the building and seeing he reaction and people go crazy for his performance. >> reporter: judge sharon osbourne said her husband, ozzie

recognized grimm's talent from the beginning and bet $100 the soulful sinner would win. >> i texted him and he was like -- >> reporter: grimm's take home will be a lot bigger, a million bucks and headline show in vegas. some have speculated the idea of a vegas show may have cost evancho a vote. >> maybe america was sort of creeped out by the idea of a 10-year-old having an act in vegas. they were like, we can't allow this to happen. ♪ >> reporter: susan boyle was once favored to win britain's got talent but she also came in second place. george piers morgan reminded evancho of that. >> i said to her, susan boyle came in second and sold 10 million albums. don't worry, this is not a defeat. >> reporter: the 10-year-old says she doesn't either, she's happy for grirm amm and can't w to go home to pittsburgh. >> i can't wait.

>> reporter: proving evancho is still just a kid with a very adult victory, second place. >> now, grimm has said he wanted to win so he could buy a new house for his grandparents who raised him and lost everything in hurricane katrina. >> kristen welker, thank you very much. just ahead, what men really think about a wide variety of topics, first, your local news.

8:26 right now, with mike who's looking at the morning commute on the peninsula. >> it's unusually slow coming out of san mateo, also slow heading down into menlo park. and a little heavier flow coming into the san mateo hills as well. we have the approach to the east bay approach, slow off the east shore freeway and generally speaking, 20s and 30s, an earlier disabled vehicle, the

bay bridge, there's your shot from low clouds and some sunshine and rob's got your forecast. >> today's forecast looks pretty good. close to 80 in san jose, 72 for alameda, 67 around san francisco and out towards the east bay, some of the warmer temperatures, concord at pittsburgh, highs climbing into the low 80s today. tomorrow about the same, but the weekend not the same, weekend clouds and a chance of scattered showers especially early sunday. i was 23 years old, i wasn't overweight. i never dreamed this would happen to me. when the doctor told me i had three blocked arteries, i felt like i was punched in the gut. i found out that one in three women die from heart disease. how did i not know that?

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this morning concord police are investigating why officers shot at a suspect after chasing him down city streets. police tried to stop the man just before 2:30 this morning. they then chased the man as he ran down the street and opened fire when he pulled out a gun. it's unclear how many bullets were fired or what condition that suspect is in. i'll have another local news update in about half an hour, the "today" show returns in less than a minute. have a great thursday morning.

8:30 on a thursday morning, the 16th day of september, 2010. lots of on a thursday morning, the 16th day of september, 2010. lots of nice people out on the plaza on this beautiful morning here in new york. meredith actually about to greet some people from ohio university, one of the finest

schools in the country. i'm matt lauer, with meredith behind me. coming up in a moment, gordon gekko is back. remember, greed is good from wall street. here we are, 23 years later, oliver stone out with "money never sleeps." how has his take on the financial world changed in 23 years? we'll talk with mr. stone about that. >> also, what do men really think snfr that's such a cheap shot. >> role models, monogamy, a new esquire survey of 20 and 50-year-old men. >> illuminating. we'll get inside your mind. >> you don't want to be there. >> also we've got jane pauley here today. that's a treat. she'll be talking to a woman who followed her passion and now she makes meadows in urban environments.

that's an inspiring story. just a reminder, just a couple weeks from now, melissa and jeremy are going to get married right here on the plaza. we need your help to pick melissa's bridesmaid dresses. go to facebook.com/todayshow. text to 622639. text 1 for effortless romance, two for modern twist, three for fun and flirty, like meredith. and four for old hollywood like me. the winner next wednesday. >> okay. now let's get a check of the weather from stephanie abrams. >> we want to send good television to your friend, her last day of chemo. how is she doing. >> she's doing great. >> send love through the tv coming from mississippi. any grits up here? were you able to find any? >> no. >> no grits in the north. they are good if you go to the south. let's have a look at your forecast if you're making breakfast.

can you open up the windows today? you can in the south. that's where the sun will be shining in the sou we're seeing a pretty nice start to your thursday so far, patches of low clouds that will break up inland and then temperatures are going to break up pretty nicely, should be close to 80 in san jose, 70s around oakland, 60s around san francisco, and 76 later on in petaluma. the chance of north bay showers, midday saturday, spreading southward across the bay, heading into sunday morning. for all your weather needs 24 hours a day, all you have to do is >> for all your weather needs 24 hours a day, go to weather.com. right now we're going to head down to the mid-atlantic and check in with my boy willard scott. willard, how are you? it's been too long? >> stephanie, i'm just glad to be working with you. you're just the jewel of our

crown at nbc's weather division. thank you for introducing me. how sweet it is. one sad note today, too. you heard, of course, edwin newman passed away a couple of days ago. what a prince, what an intelligent, beautiful man, tribute to him could go on forever. he was on the david letterman show for more than a year, great bit, did some good pieces. happy birthday from smucker's. how sweet it is, as the jar spins around. darrell beechel of mountain home, arkansas, one of the nicest things. a lot of people are settling in arkansas now, retiring. nickname is buck. avid hunter. attributes longevity to his two favorite ws, wine and women. hallelujah. let's go huntering. i'll go chasing women. earl swanson, lincoln shire, illinois. still rides around town with the

love of his life, a cuddly poodle. jeanne drackett. carl cuthbert, 100 years old. retired navy vet, played drums in the navy and also veteran's parade. i tried that a couple of times. not much. edith harrington, surprise, arizona. with the salvation army, she is a proud soldier and got her ged from high school at 82 years of age, graduated from college at 88. helen olson of largo, florida is 100-year-old. lovely, lovely lady that still uses a typewriter. now back to meredith. do you remember typewriters, meredith? are you old enough? >> tfk youmuch

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nearly 23 years ago oliver stone's film "wall street" burst on the screen and declared greed is good. after serving time in prison, he's back and causing trouble in the new film "money never sleeps." >> you know what they say, bulls make money, bears make money, the pigs, they get slaughtered. >> i thought this was a charity event, gordon. why don't you go find some. >> tell you what, i'll make you a deal. you stop telling lies about me, and i'll stop telling the truth about you. >> oliver stone, good morning. welcome back. >> thank you, matt. >> twenty-three years ago when you made the final edit on that movie and gordon gekko went off

to prison, did you think that was it? the door would shut behind him and you wouldn't revisit him or did you know you'd have to tell the story of him getting out of prison? >> no, i thought that era would change and come to the end of that moment of excess that went on for 20 years. i did the new film because of the 2008 crash. that made me rethink that as a backdrop. the whole idea was not to do a movie about 2008 crash but about real people living through this story of betrayal and greed and trust and love. so it was a story about -- actually six actors in the movie. it's a family drama. >> you premiered the movie in cannes. the change in 23 years, you were surprised by how much wealth was being amassed. it was the banks amassing that instead of individuals. how much greed existed?

>> gekko was replaced by the banks. the hedge funds and the banks. greed is amazing. $100 million to own a business, get a business in those days, now a billion dollars. a big hedge fund starts with a billion dollars. we're talking big money now, bigger than i ever dreamed. this whole movie is about this new era and it never really went away. what happens with the collapse, we have another twist in the movie where all these people's lives are somewhat shattered. >> there's another word, as opposed to greed, you want people to consider another word here and another emotion. that is envy. the power of envy and what it can do to people. >> envy played a role -- if you have a few million dollars and your neighbor has another $10 million than you do, seems envy was a driving force in the banks behaving the way they did. the accumulation of money doesn't end. you always want more. that's what josh brolin plays in the movie. he plays the fountain of evil,

the banker, who represents this kind of person who accumulates. >> i don't know that there are a lot of really good people in the movie. everybody maybe has a tinge of good but a lot of bad. >> shia labeouf. >> but swept up by envy as well. >> shia does things in the movie like set false rumors. he betrace her girlfriend, his fiance for self-accumulation, let's say. she does, too. she does things that are -- money makes you do things you don't want to do. >> slightly off the subject, when the movie premiered in kansas and i saw it, from what i understand the movie people see in the theater on friday is a little bit different. how often do you do that? do you second-guess yourself? >> no, it went well. when we saw you at cannes.

it was a chance to platform, see it with a big audience, a good reception but i wanted it to smooth out. the ending was too bankrupt. i wanted to make it more realistic. >> let me end on a personal note. one of the stars of the movie is michael douglas going through tough times. you've spoken with him recently. >> he was at the press conference. michael is very galant. he's out helping the movie. it's painful, no kidding around. we're all hoping for him. >> we're keeping fingers crossed as well. >> oliver stone, wall street never sleeps, fun, a great ride. nice to have you here, oliver. it opens in theaters. next, jane pauley shares the story of a remarkable woman who decided to >> ...berber carpet. it was a whole bowl of stew. nooo. why? i could have saved this one. i could have saved this one. ♪ call 1-800-steemer

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your life calling today. contributing editor jane pauley has a special series of reports for us. this morning, she's here with a story of one person's second career, you might say is blossoming. >> videographer, katherine zimmerman has seen the world through the eyes of a camera. when she focused on her own future, retirement wasn't in the picture. katherine zimmerman was a trailblazer. 35 years ago, she was one of tvs first female news photographers. >> when i went down for the interview and the guy wanted to know how i could carry this big heavy camera around, i assured him a girl from the farm could do anything. >> anything but retire. >> i didn't have any money in the bank. i was going to probably work for the rest of my life. >> reporter: you had a career that was maybe not sustainable? >> that went through my mind.

i thought, i better find something else i can do for the next 30 years. >> reporter: it was natural she'd think about gardening. she grew up on a farm outside dayton. we set up our cameras and lights in the barn she played in as a child. why did you know you had to go back to school? >> i just didn't think i could go out and offer my services to design somebody's landscape by just saying, hey, i like doing this. i really felt like i needed to have some expertise, as i did with film making. >> reporter: so she enrolled in a graduate program in horticulture and landscape design at the u.s. department of agriculture. >> nights and weekends, it took me three years. i didn't have really the luxury of just stopping. each class was like 100 plants to know. you got kids, you got to earn your paycheck. >> reporter: but finally, she was designing landscape. when she looked around at her own yard. >> i was the queen of the lawn. i always thought i was so darned

good at gardening. and then i learned how darned bad i was. >> reporter: she looked for fireflies. but they were gone. >> i made the connection that that was me, i did that. i killed the fireflies because i put down pesticides. it changed the direction i was taking with my landscape career. >> reporter: today, katherine zimmerman is not a gardener, she's a sustainable landscaper, a meadow maker. >> meadow is one of the prettiest words. a lot is going on in a meadow. it gives us back. a lot is going on in a meadow. it gives us back the insects and bees, cool things i remember when i was on the farm. >> reporter: last year, she photographed prairies and meadows all over the united states. suddenly, kathryn realized she had a book.

it's auld urban and suburban meadows. >> it's been a big learning experience. this is a tough year because i self published the book. that meant a lot of money up front, 20 some thousand dollars. >> reporter: add the distribution and marketing costs. >> i wondered how am i going to make the mortgage? >> reporter: what if you lose the house? >> yeah, i've been thinking about that lately. it's just a house. maybe it's time to downsize. >> reporter: so katherine zimmerman's reinvention is a work in progress. at 57, she's leading a double life, freelance film-maker and professional meadow maker. >> fresh meadow comes up every year. >> reporter: they say gardeners are people who believe in the future. tell me what you see when you see your future. >> it's not scary to me. i think it's because i draw something from somewhere, maybe from the past. a strength. maybe from the soil.

>> the meadow movement does seem to be catching on but the reality check is for all her work, travel, schooling and investment, she is yet to see the big paycheck, as kathryn puts it. but she's taken the long view, the payoff will come over the next 20 or 30 years. by the way, i'll be talking more about this during my live web chat today at noon eastern time. you can find it at aarp.org/jane. meredith. >> kathryn started working on the second act ten years in advance, which isn't often the way things happen. >> at 50, she started planning and often doesn't happen you go back to school and work double time like that. she has a unique example to inspire us. >> how did you find her? >> it's funny. on a shoot. we were in the backyard doing one of those walking around shots. she was in the back and she looked at the landscaping -- >> she saw the crew? >> she saw the crew.

this woman has some expertise and that's when i realized she did have this other newly acquired expertise in sustainable gardening. >> really interesting story, a nice lady. jane pauley. thank you so much. up next, the truth about what men are really thinking. first, this is "today" on nbc. [ female announcer ] we know jerry brown was mayor of oakland,

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we're back at 8:51 with what men are really thinking, who's the best role model in monogamy and they have more in common than you might think. richard is the magazine's featured editor. why 20 year-olds and 50 year-olds? good to have you here? >> they're two really fun demographic facts going on. if you look at the demographic population, there are more 50 year-olds than any other age group. the second largest, in men, there are more 20 year-olds than any other largest age group and the second is 50 year-olds. we have these two population swells dominating american lives and we thought it would be a good opportunity to feel their pulse. >> you ask them about marriage, work, social beliefs, let's begin with random items. clint eastwood voted coolest man

in america, both age groups. you would think for people born in 1960s, that makes sense. but for guys that play grand torino. outvoted lebron james, justin timberlake. >> 50 year-olds more concerned about the environment. doesn't shock me and 20 year-olds more conservative, might surprise some people and 20 year-olds want wives to stay home and take care of kids. that's surprising. they compare to just 14% of 50 year-olds. >> let's talk about what the groups have in common, what are the similarities? >> both said barack obama as their top choice. later in the survey, when we asked them how they thought barack obama was doing, both groups also said they didn't think he was doing a great job. you see a big difference between how they view the president and his performance. >> both groups feel a million

dollar means you're rich. both groups watch television for their news. that surprises me because i thought 20 year-olds would get it on the internet. >> both groups chose the tv as top choice for news. >> let's talk about differences here. what did you find dramatic? >> i think the biggest differences, little things. 20 year-olds likely to spend more than a thousand dollars on a suit. 20 year-olds more likely to make a large life announcement via facebook or texting. 50 year-olds are much more pessimistic in their view of the world right now. less likely to say their sons will have a better life than them, less likely to say the united states will be as strong. >> 50 year-olds more likely to say divorce is an option and nothing wrong with it. >> compared to twenty year-olds say divorce is not an option no matter what. >> isn't that an experience thing, most 50 year-olds been married and not 20 year-olds, not to be pessimistic.

>> and 50 year-olds have more divorced parents than 20 year-olds. >> each chose the teenage decade as his favorite decade for music. that means the 80s. >> for guy is in the 50s, that means the '70s, the others in the '90s. but 1 in 5 chose the '80s. everybody loves michael jackson. >> go with the '70s. the best job in america? >> everybody believes being an a-list movie star is the best job. when we asked the job that received the lowest number of votes for 20 year-olds, a high school principal. >> 50 year-olds, ceo of goldman sachs and president of the united states. no one wants those jobs. >> when it comes to woman's look, favorite part of a woman's body is her face. >> correct.d them r ther raiset

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back now with more today on this thursday morning, 16th of september, 2010. we have so many nice folks outside tweeting and we will get a shot in there. got them? hope they have a great time and get sightseeing in before the rain comes in later today. pretty nice out there now. >> some nice people this morning. >> natalie morales alongside ann curry in studio 1a. matt had to leave a little early. >> good for him. and we have more about the video surveillance released

about this family. you're looking at this connecticut woman forced to withdraw a lot of money before she was murdered, along with her two daughters who died in this home invasion. a very difficult case. the question has been raised, did police do enough to save this family? getting into that coming up and also coming up, we talk about vaccinations, that time of the year, the question is, what do we really need? we actually asked this question to our viewers online. do you have any questions about vaccination of your children? overwhelming response, a lot of people want to know how early they should be allowing their children to be vaccinated and how many shots they should be getting and dr. nancy snyderman will be coming up to tell us about that. and also a lot of people trying to sell a home these days. would you buy a home like this? it could be more fab. a little later, we'll show you

the after pictures, how the homes were staged for a quick sale. we will have news on what won't cost you a lot up front but pay off when you go to sell the home. from runways to politicians, everyone wants in on new york's fashion week. we'll show you what you will be wearing next spring. >> you got to take a look. >> i got to take a look and went to a couple shows this week. it was a lot of fun. you have more on top stories. >> i do. history is being made where pope benedict is making his four day trip to the united kingdom. this marks the first time a british pope has been invited to an officially protestant citizen. it has kradrawn criticism from mostly protestant citizens and the handling of abuse charges on children. and president mahmoud ahmadinejad told andrea mitchell

the fate of the remaining two hitchhikers in iran is up to that country's judicial system. the number of foreclosured homes jumped up in august, up 25% from a year ago and the highest since the mortgage crisis began. the deadly home invasion case we were talking about in connecticut, the 911 tapes are raising questions whether police could have done more to save the victims. jeff has more on this. good morning. >> hi. good morning to you. the tapes tell the story. new questions why police didn't rush in to save the petit family. officers were on scene, but stayed outside. meanwhile, the petits were being tortured and later killed inside. >> reporter: in this newly released surveillance video, a clear picture, the final picture of jennifer hawke-petit, less than an hour before her death. prosecutors say petit was at a local bank withdrawing $15,000 and calmly told the bank teller her entire family was being held

hostage at home. she needed the money for ransom. at 9:21 a.m., with jennifer still in the bank, the manager made a chilling call to 911. >> we have a lady who is in our bank right now, who says that her husband and children are being held at their house. if the police are told, they will kill the children and the husband. she says they are being very nice. they have their faces covered. she is petrified. >> reporter: with good reason. prosecutors say these two men, steven hayes and joshua komisarjevsky were terrorizing the family, beating dr. petit with a baseball bat and tying him to this pole in the basement. his two daubters were tied to their beds upstairs, all tortured overnight until the sun came up and the bank opened up. >> they're tied up, she said. she's taking $15,000 out of her credit line. they told her they wouldn't hurt

anybody if she got back there with the money. she believes them. i think she's walking out now. >> reporter: officers were dispatched to the house but according to police logs were told by their captains not to approach the house and stay back until they could set up a safe perimeter. 30 minutes after that first 911 call, still no ambulances, or fire trucks or emergency teams who could move in. by now, jennifer was back home with the money, her family and the attackers. >> this was a small police department, they very quickly got over their heads. they fell back on their training, but in this particular situation, the training wasn't adequate. in the time it took, lives were lost. >> reporter: william petit could hear his family being tortured upstairs. i heard the moaning and the thumbs, he testified. somehow, bleeding from his head, he managed to escape, his feet still bound, petit hopped out of the house and made it to a neighbor's home for help. minutes later, a fireball,

prosecutors say the suspects raped and strangled jennifer petit and burned the house down. the mother and her two daughters were all killed. in court wednesday, it got ugly, steven hayes defense lawyer, who by the way admits his client committed the crime, pointed the finger at police, snapping at a police captain on the stand, not excusing what happened, the fact was you were too late, correct? the captain replied, if we had any indication of violence, i would have been the first one through the door. it got so emotional in court wednesday, ann, the photo evidence was so gruesome the petit family broke down in tears and the judge had to send everyone home early because the jury was sobbing. >> jeff rossen, thank you. also a state of emergency in california, where a raging wildfire has burned more than 6,000 acres. meanwhile, governor arnold

schwarzenegger toured the homes devastated in san bruno by last week's gas explosion. take a look at this. nasa is testing its next generation of space rovers in the arizona desert. the rugged terrain provides good practice for future missions to mars, the moon or even asteroid. they have a dump truck there. you're up to date. it's now 7 past the hour. let's get a check on the weather. stephanie abrams is in for al. >> you are celebrating your birthday tuesday, right? first time in new york, what's your favorite thing? you said the jets game. you're a charger's fan. i can't figure this out. >> we want the jets to get in the playoffs and we have payback, i guess. >> there you go. watch out. you're in new york. plenty of people here. >> just kidding. very friendly people here. let's look at the weather and we will talk about the traffic. ththis is igor still swirling i the atlantic, headed towards the

well, we are expecting a pretty nice day around the bay area, at least later on for the afternoon, some patchy low clouds left over for the morning, 65 around lunchtime for san francisco, 75 around san jose, topping out near 80 for san jose. low 80s around livermore, temperatures tomorrow about the same, though we'll see increasing high clouds and a chance of showers moving through the north bay through the weekend. ann, over to you. >> today's "daily dose" is brought to you by yoplait, it's so good! >> stephanie, thank you so much. this morning on today's "daily dose," vaccinations 101.

immunations are not just for infants, they are certain shots all members of the family should be getting and the question is when? here to answer your questions is nbc's chief medical editor, dr. nancy snyderman. good morning to you. you are a pro-opponent of this? >> i am. i think this is the greatest break through perhaps in science history and for sure our lifetime. we have saved millions of lives in this country and around the globe. immunizations matter. the idea you could give a shot to prevent a disease that could kill you is extraordinary. >> even though many of these diseases we're talking about are rare. >> they're rare because this has worked so well. look at this laundry list of diseases we can prevent. we don't talk about polio. smallpox has been eradicated, don't immunize for it anymore. these are preventable diseases a simple shot can take care of. part of the controversy around people pushing back, say, they're rare, why should diet?

they' -- do it? they're rare because this has worked. if we don't immunize, the herd of human beings will have their deserves dropped and that can make us vulnerable. >> this topic touched a nerve. when we put it out online, we asked our viewers, questions about it. we got a response, anonymous e-mail. babies seem to get a lot of shots in their first month of life, often multiple shots in one visit. is it okay for babies to have so many shots at once? >> the answer is yes. let me take you back to utero, to when they get their first shot. they are swimming around in amniotic fluid in the mommy's tummy and it is sterile. from the moment they pop out into the world, that child is colonized with trillions of bacteria and viruss that says to the immune system, wake up,

you're here, which means start making anti-bodies to the bad stuff out there. now to the first shot, two months later, there are a multitude of shots and more than ever because we now can prevent diseases. when a mom or a dad looks at that vial and that little shot, remember, the amount of medicine is just a small traction. the rest is water or saltwater, the delivery mechanism to get the rest of the medicine in the body. it sounds like a lot. compared to what a baby is fighting off with toys on the floor and things put in the mouth and bacteria all around, it is minuscule. >> some people would like to have them spread over longer periods of time or started a little bit late. what do you think about it? >> i don't like it and here's why. i don't care if you're an md or phd or think you're smarter than everybody on earth. here's the downside. it's harder to kype traeep trac stuff, easy to let the next shot

fall through the system. the doctors who set this up know this is when these children are most vulnerable to these illnesses and when they can make ant anti-bodies. there is no scientific proof spacing them out is better, but more likely to miss a dose. >> darsy is joining us live from skype. what's your question. >> hi. i just found out the vaccine is available for girls and boys. i wanted to know if this is true and if boys should get the vaccine. >> it is cool. the hpv vaccine is to keep women from getting the human papilloma virus, linked to cancer, and certain strains worst than others. we now know this is a vaccine given to women in their preteens, 9 to early 20s. the idea is get the vaccine before you're sexually active

and exposed to the viruss. it makes sense if a boy carries the virus and girl gets the virus, why are you just immunizing the girl? now we know it's safe to give both girls and boys. >> does the boy benefit? >> they do. you can get warts, you can get sexually transmitted warts from the human papilloma virus. >> it became controversial? >> it was seen as, then my child will be promiscuous. make no doubt about it, this is not a vaccine you give your child to say, now, it's okay to have sex. you give it to your child so when they are sexually active, you don't die because you had sexual activity, 9 to early 20s. once you had multiple sexual partners or late 20s to 30s, this is not an appropriate vaccine. >> we have another question from nicole from alabama, and she's on the phone. hello, nicole. what's your question? >> caller: [ inaudible ]. >> i think we might have lost nicole's signal. we'll try to get her back on

line. we have samantha in illinois. she's on the phone. let's see if we can talk to samantha. hey, samantha. >> caller: hi. >> what's your question? >> caller: good morning. my question is, i'm a 19-year-old teenager that works a full time job and goes to college. what shot do i need for this upcoming year? >> i love this question, samantha. first of all, congratulations ongoing to college. remember, it's like going into the army, you are going into the barracks. you are going to be near people who come right up to your face and transmit things. a couple things. now is the time to get your flu shot. i am a big pro-opponeponent get meningitis vaccine. get those two things. if you haven't had your hpv shot, get it and check your tetanus record. >> meningitis is rare but devastating if you get it. >> it is rare but for the cost

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didn't want it to be too strong. >> reporter: soft looks are dominating the catwalk. >> ultra feminine is the relaxed, confidence. >> reporter: including lots of light, floey dresses, simple silhouettes and muted colors. ts >> white, cream and dusty rose. almost like early '90s, calvin klein, minimal aesthetics. you won't see the styles seen on the jersey shore cast. >> reporter: sorry, snooki, that means black is out. along with ultra 'froms trends we saw in spring 2010. >> it isn't just about the shows, these define the beauty looks next season including what you will be wearing on your face. >> reporter: charlotte willard, a makeup artist from new york,

primps and powders models for dozens of shows. when it comes to makeup, simple is also the style. >> to look glowy, natural, effortless. >> reporter: that doesn't mean you can't have fun with your face. the show has pops of color on eyes and lips and eyebrows are making a comeback. >> we're talking about the '80s? they can be big? >> but not as sharp. >> reporter: full but soft? >> right. >> reporter: thank god. >> next season, eve is in. ♪ >> it's about achieving prettiness with ease. we're all going to be able to get dressed in less than five minutes and we will love that. everybody wants to feel pretty and don't want to spend a lot of time or money to do it. >> reporter: pretty, simple, easy, trends that will make you feel as good as you look. >> now, the shows haven't been

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coliseum all the way to downtown. also dealing with some low clouds hovering around in many spots of the bay area. >> a pretty nice start to the morning around lunchtime, we'll see 70s popping up inland on our way to 70s and 80s from silver mo ut remoso south. a chance of showers as we go through the weekend, especially across the north bay. [ male announcer ] as the ceo of hp, carly fiorina laid off 30,000 workers. when you're talking about massive layoffs, which we did... perhaps the work needs to be done somewhere else.

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through -- in the next couple of weeks we might see some signs of children are having nightmares, complaining of stomach aches, things like that, maybe possibly regress in school so we'll keep looking out for those things and provide the support for them and their families. >> she says that the county did do an excellent job of helping the children. the state insurance commission is going to talk more about what to look out for, that's coming up in half an hour at 10:00. more local news in half an hour and the "today" show returns in about a minute, have a great morning.

my name is paul. i'm an american citizen from hastings, michigan. i'm a civilian truck driver for crestston, rawlings and thomas. i've been taken hostage somewhere in iraq. >> it's almost hard to recognize him. that is ryan reynolds in his new thriller. you probably recognize him. what you're seeing here is the proposal with sandra bullock, the comedy. he will be here tomorrow to share his latest news and talk about hs new movie that he's in. meanwhile, we have a new finale, southern boy, michael grimm, when he won a million

dollar and his own las vegas show on "america's got talent" last night. he looks pretty stunned there. i think a lot of people were stunned. he beat out young jackie evancho who captured the nation and the judge said she sings like an 80-year-old, and we will have highlights coming up in this half hour. >> they all will do just fine. they all have record deals and everything else. meanwhile, if you're trying to sell your house, think about staging before you post your house online. it doesn't have to cost you a bundle. with paint and drapes, we can show you amazing before and after pictures and how you can make simple changes to your home. later on today, in today's kitchen, if you love wandering through the farmer's market, and if you aren't sure, how to use

local fresh ingredients in your own cooking. >> the idea is about seasonal cooking, how to use foods in season, so you get them at their peak, which means they will taste the best and how to think that way. >> it's a healthier way to eat as well. >> i said, i will get some peaches or something and mike bettes said, those aren't in season. you can get anything now year-round, you know? >> er that. getting it off the farm. >> i'm with you. >> a local bor. >> i never heard that. >> you want to talk about the weather? >> i think i will. you want to do gardening outside, it will be chilly throughout portions of the northern tier and the heat is still on in the southern tier as we head to the afternoon hours. it is a front for severe weather that will make its way nor we're seeing a pretty nice

start to your thursday so far, patches of low clouds that will break up inland and temperatures are going to warm up nicely, concord and livermore, 80 around san jose. 60s closer to san francisco and 76 later on in petaluma. your seven-day forecast shows things starting to cool off tomorrow, but a chance of showers spreading southward across the bay heading into sunday more. -- morning. thank you. >> coming up next, who's the nextupst from "america's got talent," right after this.

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now to a big upset in the hollywood world of talent competition. she's been called a singing phenomenon, 10-year-old jackie evancho explode onto the stage of the hit show, "america's got talent." in the end, she didn't take away the prize. kristen has the story. >> good morning.

the one who won "america's got talent" was a singer named michael grimm. he was shocked to learn he had beaten jackiev evancho. when you're 10 years old, second place is pretty good. >> reporter: from the moment she opened her mouth and this seasoned soprano voice came out, jackie evancho stole the show and a lot of hearts on nbc's "america's got talent." she was the one to beat. >> i've never seen a vocal performance like that on this show. >> reporter: once america weighed in with phonin votee in a new star was made. >> michael grimm! >> reporter: he was from mississippi and his face said it all. >> i had no clue i would win. i thought jackie was going to win. when i got up there, i was

blessed to have made it as far as i made it. >> reporter: but grimm gave an unforgettable final performance. >> michael grimm had the best performance being in the building and seeing the reaction and seeing people go to crazy for his performance. >> reporter: judge sharon osbourne said her husband, ozzie recognized his talent from the beginning and bet her $10 he would make it. >> i texted him. >> reporter: grimm's take home will be a lot bigger, a million bucks and headline show in las vegas. some speculated the idea of a vegas show may have cost evancho votes. >> maybe america was creeped out by the idea of a 10-year-old having an act in vegas, and they're like, we can't allow this to happen. ♪ >> reporter: susan boyle was once favored to win "britain's got talent," but she also came

in second place. judge piers morgan reminded evancho of that. >> i said her to afterwards, susan boyle came in second and sold 10 million albums, don't worry, this is not a defeat. >> reporter: the 10-year-old said she's not worried either, happy for grimm and ready to go home in pittsburgh. >> i can't wait to hold my duckies and everything. >> reporter: proving evancho is just a kid with a very adult victory, second place. >> grimm said he wanted to win so he could buy a new hawes few his grandparents. they raised him and were misplaced by hurricane katrina. >> sounds like the voters made the right choice. i don't even know who beat susan boyle. do you? >> no. they are both winners. coming up next, from for sale to sold, we will show you how to stage your home to make it appealing to buyers right after this.

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for sale? we see the segments when you put the homes online to sell, that's really what's drawing the people into your house. >> most people look first on the internet and see what they like and make an appointment to come in. if you don't get them right then -- you have to have the hook. >> let's show viewers right now some amazing before and afters you worked on. first, let's show the living room in a house, it has a big fireplace, a big selling feature to a home except not in this case. why not? >> it was completely dirty and the way i fixed it, it was foaming bathroom cleaner. foaming bathroom cleaner takes out all the soot from a fireplace. >> you got rid of all the clutter. >> exactly. there's so many options, you put it at arm's reach, nice ones and for things you put away, there's so many options for storage bins. >> people want to feel like they can move in the space, if your

clutter is all in there, they won't feel like they can move in there. >> exactly. >> another thing you did was pictures and groupings to warm up the space. >> you don't want to have bare walls, you want neutral art, nothing political or personal. >> no family photos. >> no family photos, big no-no. >> no picture of that guy in your mirror. that guy, tommy. >> tommy. definitely, no pictures of tommy. you want to keep no tommy, nothing political or personal. >> mirrors are great. >> it saves on the painting of the walls. >> that's right. you want to make sure they're neutral. >> we move on to a bedroom. here's a dark bedroom, covering up even more, not getting a lot of light in there. tell me what you did with that bedroom? >> i twitched up the linens, a second easy fix. people underestimate switching out the bed linens alone, makes a big difference.

this is rachel ashweld, shabby characteristic. from target. >> bed in a bag. >> easy. >> the curtains were like keeping all the light out of that room. what did you do? >> when it comes to curtains, i want them to hit the floor and they can puddle about 2 inches and hang them as high as possible. >> make the room look bigger? >> exactly. >> that will save you a lot. these are inexpensive curtains as well. >> you can get panels for like $10. >> keep it simple? >> exactly. keep it simple, it will be easier on you and you can keep the stuff for your new house. >> this dining room right now, the color makes you want to blush, a little too bearing, over the top? >> over the top. >> the pepto-bismol pink. >> by painting, i kept the trims and switched out the furniture.

>> it has nice detail but -- >> the red was overbearing and went from drab architecture detail to wonderful. >> and you set the place there. >> i always set the table. >> why do you do that? >> it makes people think of entertaining. when you go to a model home, you always see the table set. i wouldn't do it in a kitchen, just a formal dining room. >> makes people think i want to sit down. >> and have a family gathering. >> actually, this is pretty cheap. >> i get a lot of my furniture on target.com or online, second-hand stores. >> this whole setting is about $99. >> and, again, you get to keep this. >> change the furniture, makes it real cost effective as well. let's talk about living rooms and some of the before in this picture. this is not doing anything for the house. >> it was pretty bad. >> what did you do? >> that was beige on beige on beige. >> you added color, added browns and other neutral tones, too.

>> you can get a slipcover if you don't want to get a slipcover, keep that color and add accessories and toss pillows and make sure you have lamps. >> you can always hide behind the lamps. >> you should have three sources of light per room. >> don't forget the exterior space. >> it's the first impression of every house. trim from pottery barns and it always makes it different, the lanterns. >> sabrina, thank you so much. next up, seasonal things to feed your family. fi

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today he's making us something from his new cookbook, called fresh from the market, seasonal cooking. good morning. i got to say your name twice, which was really fun. you promote seasonal cooking. >> yes. >> what would you define seasonal cooking as? >> the four seasons, winter, spring and fall. >> you use the freshest things from that time, at their peak of freshness and flavor. >> not only the seasons but also by the month. seasonal month. >> the difficulty is with everything being flown in from everywhere else, it's difficult to know what's seasonal necessarily and what isn't? >> yes. also, the local products, local shrubbery, local blueberries. >> right, right. thinking about what is grown locally and what is at the farmer's market is a good clue. >> today, you're making something called marcella's

ocobuco, from the fall. >> from the fall. >> my mistake. beautiful cut of -- >> ocobuco. it is a cut of the veal from the back. you see a larger piece from the back leg and this is from the front leg. >> how do we get started? >> i will take marcella and start in 10 minutes. >> this is marcella wine. okay. i will take a sip of this. okay. then what? >> that's early. >> honey, it's never too late. it's always noon somewhere. you basically braise this? >> actually, i'm giving a bit of coloration on it, a little bit of olive oil. i will remove them. i will make the sauce, ready for the braising. >> put some red onions in there? >> no.

shallots. >> shallots, i'm sorry, i misidentified them. >> and some garlic and thyme and bay leaf. i will cook it a little bit until it's entrenched. >> that is beautiful, smells amazing as well. then what do we add? >> i will have the cognac. >> what does it add to the flavor? i know it adds a wonderful aroma. >> sweetness. you will find the flavor not too strong. here, i will have marcella wine. >> marcella, more marcella. life is better with marcella. and marinated raisins. and now we have grapes. >> we have grapes at the end. >> this is natalie. what are you adding there? >> i will put stock, veal stock and chicken stock.

>> okay. you can buy those probably in the can, forever you have to, if you don't want to spend the time making them. we only have a little bit of time left. >> i will put it back. >> beautiful. how long do you cook this? >> about an hour and a half, two hour, depends on the size of the piece. >> do you put that in immediately or afterwards, the grapes? >> at the end. >> we have to quickly go to the >> at the end. >> we have to quickly go to the end and see what this looks twizzlers. the twist you can't resist. health e

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commute with mike in the east bay really jammed up. >> especially in oakland, it's just jammed from the coliseum, the tail end of the backup heading all the way north into downtown oakland. we'll show you on the map what we're talking about. look at all this red, speeds below 21 miles an hour. it used to be about 10 miles an hour. 580 is a good alternate for you. in the city, southbound 101. it sounds like a couple of hours for that slowing. >> today's forecast looks pretty good once you lose the low clouds, 80 to san jose, 60s out on the coast, 67 around san francisco, and out towards the east bay, some of the warmer temperatures, concord and pittsburgh, highs climbs into the low 80s today. tomorrow, about the same, but the weekend not the same. increasing clouds and a chance of scattered showers especially early sunday. >> san francisco hotel workers may soon trade their mints on

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>> it is not easy. >> we're getting used to it. >> some people were up late last night. >> i saw a little bit of it but didn't see the end. >> "america's got talent" was on. there was that 10-year-old adorable little singer named jackie evancho. everybody thought she was going to win. she sang opera like -- it was between jackie evancho and the guy from mississippi. i can't remember his name because -- >> michael grimm. >> yes, michael grimm. there it was. we're going to watch, a million dollars on the line. watch the winning moment. >> michael grimm! congratulations! >> they had a conversation. >> stunned. she wasn't standing up. she was sitting going -- >> i thought that was shocking.

did you hear her sing, in case some people haven't heard her. she sounds like a dream, this little jackie evancho. ♪ >> oh, my gosh. >> sarah berkman. >> okay. >> that's pretty unbelievable. good for michael grimm, god bless him. he has a really good back story to his life. and obviously very deserving. i haven't watched the whole series. >> we should hear him. let's hear a little bit. ♪ sang the blues never good enough for me ♪ ♪ good enough for me and bobby mcgee ♪ >> he's talented too. >> the winner is also going to get to headline a show in vegas. i'm glad it is michael grimm and not jackie evancho. vegas is fine for adults, but a

place for a kid to be performing. >> i saw the end and she was being interviewed after the show. she looked relieved. >> do you know what she said? >> she wanted to cuddle her ducky. >> i want to go home and cuddle my ducky. we forget she is a child. >> i think she was done for that particular thing. i think it worked out the way it was supposed to. she has a long runway. >> she won't cuddle duckies for long. that phone will ring within a week and she'll be doing something. now the key is to parent her well and protect her, really protect her, because the vultures will be -- >> they'll get her. >> yep. >> so some good news in new york city. if you are against people smoking in public. mayor bloomberg is considering banning smoking in all public places, like parks, beaches, and times square. >> outside of buildings, everywhere. everywhere. all public places. >> i have to say, i'm kind of for that. >> well, remember the outcry when you first banned it in restaurants, everybody said it is going to hurt everybody, nobody is going to go to

restaurants anymore. really? people get hungry. but they smoke outside. it is so funny that that would be announced today because yesterday i left our building and some of our best friends around here do smoke. and they have been battling with it. they really would love to be able to quit, but they can't so far. as i walked out, i mean it was into -- it was a beautiful day yesterday, into this, like, this -- >> cloud. >> more than that. yeah, like a heavy duty cloud. >> cloud. >> and my hair stunk the whole way home. i was gasping for breath because i'm, you know, i'm highly allergic to it. so it is one thing to do it to yourself, and i'm sorry anybody is addicted us about it is a terrible, terrible addiction, but secondhand smoke is a bigger killer than asbestos or a lot of other things as well. >> there are some states that do not ban it in restaurants. i think there are 26 that do around the country. a lot of them still don't. a lot of people are trying to get on the bandwagon. but there is nothing worse than sit on the beach, enjoying -- >> the fresh air and here comes this waft of smoke and literally, you can't really move

away because you move and the wind changes or go somewhere, you're going to be in it no matter what. but i bet you this is going to have -- there will be a lot of outcry. >> there will be outcry. maybe somebody will give it up bet, they won't have any option. but the other thing is, it is a personal right. i'm all for personal rights. i'm becoming more and more of a libertarian the old are i get. the more they take away our rights, i say excuse me, wait a minute. i don't think we should infringe on the rights of other people and that's the biggest problem with the smoking. >> i agree with that. >> okay. >> let's -- >> what else do we want to go to. >> let's make a toast. >> i'm afraid to. >> there is a huh? study that says just holding a drink makes you look stupid. >> that's exactly what it says. >> it does nothing to do with how much you imbibe of the drink. just if you're holding it. >> as long as it is in your hand, you look dumber than someone. >> to me, you look stupid, i look stupider now. >> holding that bottle, yeah.

the bottle over your head. >> than that. if it were a can, you would really look stupid. then if you have a can with a little umbrella sticking out of it, then you're truly, you know, should be sent away somewhere. >> they say that they did a -- they took a picture of people with drinks and without drinks and they asked a bunch of people in a focus group, who do you think is smarter and they thought the people without drinks were smarter than the people with drinks. >> i look at the pictures, people with a beautiful glass of champagne and the other doesn't and i say, i wonder if that person is boring. i respect anybody that chooses not to drink. you wonder if they're having a good time. the other one always looks like they're having a really good time. >> i'm with you. there was a -- i think a saw a witness to scam on sixth avenue in new york. >> tell us. >> walking down the street -- >> was it jeff zucker? >> was not. there was a man standing there at the corner and this couple that just came out of, you know, some restaurant, walked out and brushed lightly against him. the guy had a bag of food in his hand and it flew up in the air

like it was insane, like -- >> the man who was brushed up against or the man who did the brushing? >> the man standing there holding his food. the man brushed up against him lightly. the food went flying and fell down and the couple went, i'm sorry, i did bump you, did you drop all your food. he reached in his pocket and gave him 20 bucks. i said, boy, i can't believe that whole chaotic thing happened there. i was with a friend. she said, i think that's a scam. i said, why? i went running down sixth avenue, six piles of food just like that -- >> had been dropped. >> had been dropped. someone is standing on street, waiting for people to come by, knocking them and the food is not -- it looks like scraps and stuff, doesn't look like a real meal, they feel terrible because they bum pd the person and they get 20 bucks. >> i'm happy to hear there are still people in new york that will give you 20 bucks if they knock you -- if they stop and say, gee, i'm sorry, here's 20 bucks. i haven't seen a lot of that. that's good to know. >> you dropped your mean, oh, my gosh you feel like you have to

repay. >> we have oliver stone on our show today. he's just done a terrific remake -- not a remake, a brand-new movie, a sequel to the movie "wall street." this time called "money never sleeps." we saw it a couple of weeks ago and really, really enjoyed it. it reminded me of when i broke bread with oliver. i had dinner one night with him at the john george hotel. >> the two of you? >> john george restaurant at the trump international. no, not just the two of us. frank and oliver, had two guests, it was me and al pacino. >> you're kidding? >> i know. it is a fun dinner. you think they're not going to remember. i saw him earlier and he said, where was it we had dinner that night. i was like, oliver remembers. there he is. remember that, oliver? did i bore him to death that night? oh, yes, i did. >> we'll talk to him in a second. >> it is that time on a thursday. >> oh, yeah. >> life this portion. i get to pick a favorite song. this is the -- this is the song,

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>> exactly. i had a lot of work done since then. but the truth is, you make us care so much about the -- even though gordon gekko is prominently featured, there is a new set of characters that we care very much about. >> six characters. >> that first scene, he gets out of prison and, boy, has the world changed. and yet not really, right, in some ways. >> michael is more -- he's got a heart now in this movie. and he had 23 years. and also he's got a daughter and a daughter is not there. that's the key to the scene. he walks out of prison, no one is waiting for him. that becomes an important part of the movie because he is conflicted. he wants a family. she won't talk to him. she hates him. >> his wife has gone crazy and his son -- >> i think it is interesting how michael douglas' character changed so much from the first one to the second. i thought he was kind of going to be the same guy. >> we had to go on. life moves on. michael found -- michael deepened, we all do. he's humbler in the movie. that's interesting because he wants to get back in, he's still

hungry to be a player. >> meaning gordon gekko. >> on the inside. so he's willing to -- the question in the movie, among others, all the characters face this dilemma, what do you do for money? do you sell out your daughter? or do you take the money? shia has a similar -- shia labeouf -- >> a similar problem. >> he's a good kid but does the false rumor thing. >> don't give too much of your movie away. >> just some ideas. he's a mixed bag, you know. they're real people. the only one is perhaps the most pure would be josh brolin as the bad banker. >> because he is what he is, he makes no -- he sort of makes bones about it. he goes to gala -- which, by the way, you could have called us to be in that scene. you had everybody in the whole world in that scene. peggy segal is in that scene, susan hess, you make a cameo. next time, really, we're not going to take it so well. >> if i had known you guys were around. >> yeah, right. but you capture that money world of new york beautifully.

it seemed to me having seen so many of your movies, you took a different directial chances. some of the ways you got from one scene to the next seemed very different to me. you used a different kind of technology? >> we used a lot of television ideas. this is not covered back in 1987. >> 24 hours. >> that cnbc cycle, the technology is very clever. we wanted to adopt that style to the movie and make it more 2008. >> then you did do that. >> also you need to remember in the 1980s, you remember, there was novelty, all the consumers of the possessions was new. now we're sort of jaded at all the technology that is kind of used. >> you make a political statement. it is subtle but it is there. and we talked about it, it is like a modern morality play this movie, but really not that much has changed since 2008. same people are still making -- right? >> bigger money. >> bigger money. and much more is at stake as a

result. >> we say even in 1980, there was not a story about the stock market, that was the background. here it is the background, talking about the people, the old things like love and trust and what that means and what money does to you and betrayals. i think that makes the world go around, people. >> it is a terrific movie. it is going to be a huge hit. i think i like the second one better than the first one. >> i think women will like the second one more because it is more human. >> you still look great. >> thank you. what are you doing for lunch? >> it hits theaters september tx >> up next, the two stars hopping on the soul train tell us what we have to look forward to. look at them. [ mom ] game time is all about the traditions. it's all about the tackles and the touchdowns... and watching my boys do what they do.

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>> we have this thing of who should go first. >> you're like donnie and marie. >> th should go first. >> i'm th. >> i'm tbh. you're tph. >> so if we missed last year's, which i have to confess i did, what can people expect this year? >> well, i -- last year we honored a few really great people. we had ron isley will be on. >> i love anita. >> different artists than before. >> we're showing the evolution, even though a lot of the new stars today into hip-hop and all that, we're going to show the evolution from where those songs came from. where that style came from and watch it grow. >> we had on just a couple of weeks ago was kelly rowland with this whole cd thing about the history of "soul train" and everything. it made a huge impact for black performers, especially. >> you got to remember the dance, all of the other popular dance shows came right after

"soul train" came out. >> except for "american bandstand," wouldn't you say? that was the original. >> that was the original. >> some of the stuff we did with "soul train" with don cornelius, everybody learned to dance. >> got to watch. >> and dress. and dress. style your hair. >> you were one of those kids watching it when you were growing up? >> and thank god for the weave because when we did -- when we did "soul train" last year, i did my hair long, remember that asian woman who used to dance with all that hair, that was -- >> what about this year? >> i don't know. >> you'll think of something. >> you're working on "law & order". >> los angeles. >> tv. >> tell us about that, terrence. >> it is incredible. it is me and alfred molina, he does one week, i do another week.

>> you were in toronto with the toronto film festival. >> with michael c. hall, sarah silverman, leslie ann moran, julie grier, myself. >> films like that, independent films, go to these kinds of things hoping to pick up distribution to it can come to a theater near you. >> absolutely. >> you have a film, you're played nelson mandela in something coming up. >> me and jennifer hudson, jennifer plays winnie mandela, i play nelson from 36 to 80. >> what is it called? >> "winnie". it is incredible. >> excellent. busy and important. thank you for stopping by. >> thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to see us. >> "soul train," 28th of >> w november. >> we got you. >> and "law & order". >> 29th of september. >> we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] sometimes one taco can't handle all your favorite toppings.

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the san mateo bridge. we still have speeds down into the 40s coming off of 680. slow both directions approaching 237. on 237 itself, but really jamming up northbound 101 all the way in towards mopet boulevard. the accident at broadway sounds like it is clearing and the accident on the upper deck, that has cleared now we see movement there. >> a pretty nice start to your thursday so far, patches of low clouds that will break up inland, low 80s inland around concord and livermore. close to 80s around san jose, 76 later on in petaluma. temperatures cooling off some tomorrow, but a chance of showers spreading southward across the bay heading into sunday more.

>> and once again, thanks for joining us this morning, the "today" show continues. have a great day. . we're back on this thirst day with more of "today" to help open your eyes and avoid the distractions in your life that could be keep you from where you want to go. >> exactly. because we have been such a society of multitaskers, we often forget to pay attention. missing more than you've ever mansioned. psychologists christopher shabri, close enough, and daniel simon, conducted this study. hey, my name gets butchered all the time. >> and mine is misspelled. >> called "the invisible gorilla and other ways our intuitions deceive us". >> it is sobering when you

realize it you think you're intelligence, aware of what's going on around you and we'll show you in a few moments how easy it is to miss some startlingly obvious things, right? >> yeah. that's true. you are pretty intelligent, actually, just you miss things. >> me personally or just -- >> both of you, but everybody else as well. >> everybody. >> be careful, chris. >> anything to do with intelligence? >> really not. >> that's good to know. >> so you did an experiment called "the monkey business illusion." we want all the viewers to pay close attention to what you're going to see. you're going to watch a basketball being passed back and forth and count how many times this basketball gets passed. >> to the players wearing white. >> the ones wearing white. we're watching. >> counting? >> i'm trying. >> just the ones in white.

>> eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13. >> okay, so -- >> 17. >> how many times? >> i don't know where we stopped? i had either 16 or 17 times. >> did you notice anything weird? >> the gorilla in the middle of the -- was there somebody else? first of all, did we get the number right? >> it is about 16, yeah. >> tell us why -- because here's the idea. most people don't -- we're kind of -- we sort of knew a little bit about it called the gorilla but most people don't notice the gorilla. >> they don't. >> half the people don't see the gorilla, believe it or not. >> well, what are they smoking? it is right there. the gorilla walks in. looks around. >> you were focusing on the passing. >> i was counting. >> did you notice anything else besides the gorilla? >> no. what else? >> what? what were the two other things. >> now that we're -- somebody leaves. somebody leaves. i just saw that. >> you saw it the second time. >> i didn't see that the first

time. >> there is the gorilla outside. >> who's the guy out there? >> i'm sorry, that's not unusual around here so, you know. >> you notice the color of the curtain in the background. >> did that change too? >> no. let's see it. one more time. >> don't be difficult. >> i know. i want to see. >> starts out as dark red. and as the gorilla goes through it is changing -- >> oh, it is. >> changes to a yellow. >> now it is a -- yeah, you don't. >> you know what it is, it is the cross fade thing that happens and let's blame it on that. we're doing another one. >> another one. we're supposed to pay attention to what happens when what? what are we supposed to look for? >> just watch the video and then we'll ask you the question. >> okay. that's it. >> that's it? it was a different guy. >> okay. you got that it -- it is a

different guy? >> i thought it was a different guy. >> different guy, but that's it. >> different clothes, different person. you noticed that? >> i thought it was a different guy. didn't notice the clothes. he's got the t-shirt on there and then the button down. >> two-thirds of the time people don't notice anything changing at all there. the person or anything else. if they don't know there is a change coming and they're just watching this video, they see it as a guy answering the phone. they don't notice anything different before or after. >> here's the thing, it is a quick edit. it is a passage of time or immediately. so maybe we're a little different, hoda, that we're used to -- i edit all the time stuff. so -- >> yeah. >> maybe i'm making it more -- are people different in that sense in what they're -- if somebody makes their living as an editor, they're going to see that differently. they're going to perceive it differently. >> that's possible. but editors of -- film editors know people aren't good at noticing changes and so they do

extra things to keep track of the changes and pay extra attention, keep notes. >> notes on every film. >> i think we did something on "dateline" where it was like a dating game thing and you were sitting across from somebody and at some point the person actually changed out to a different guy and the woman didn't notice that the guy had changed. >> i didn't notice that guy was different. >> script supervisors, they know they're not so great at this task. so they know -- >> people say, i notice this and it wasn't in the scene before. >> i can't believe there is a gorilla standing out back. all right, boys. >> you're interesting. >> the book is called -- >> we try our best. we try our best. >> it is called "the invisible gorilla". >> u neo look thinner with a few wardrobe maneuvers. >> i can't wait. oh, it's jonathan! did you know it's the only leading line of kid cereals with at least 8 grams of whole grain and a good source of calcium?

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we're back with "today's style" and a promise to make you look thinner by dinner. >> colleen sullivan is a beauty and fashion director for "health" magazine and she says it is all about what you wear. not what you eat. what you wear. >> you don't have to diet, you don't are to exercise. it is about fashion choices in the morning. you can actually look thinner by dinner based on what you put on. >> okay. >> i think a lot of women are sensitive about a lot of areas of our bodies, but i was surprised to learn, the most sensitive spot for a lot of us is right back here -- >> that area. >> under the arm, excess skin,

it is a big problem for most women. >> really toned women too, right? >> you tend to have a little jiggle here. there is a great hollywood secret we'll talk about with our first model. >> before and after picture. this is the issue we're trying to slenderize the arm. >> here is vanessa. she's like in a strapless black tee that does nothing for her upper arms and a great secret is the illusion t-shirt. come on out, vanessa. this illusion t-shirt literally all it is is a tank top, put any tank top on and put over a sheer or lace top. you can see some skin, so you have the illusion of skin, but you've got the coverage. >> it is all three-quarter. >> three-quarter length, very flattering. and if you look at the thinnest part of your arm, it is your wrist. so what you also want to do is play up your wrists with a lot of bangles, a great cocktail ring and that will bring the attention down here and away from the jiggle up here. >> i love lace. that's adorable.

thanks, vanessa. >> next is roz. we have the before story here. this is when you're trying to elongate your torso? >> trying to minimize the bust area and elongate her torso. this dress does not do it for roz. this new version does. >> let's see you, baby. oh, yes. >> fabulous. like night and day. >> it is that black thing, though, that happens. little black dress. >> black is slenderizing. here is what is great about this dress. it is made out of a jersey knit fabric, so it was a little stretch, but it is also going to suck everything in it very comfortable, right, roz? it has darting in the front. if you see the seams -- >> beautiful curves. >> elongates. the length is perfect for roz, an inch above her knee that will make her legs look long. let's go to the top. if you're large-busted, you want to look for a neckline that is like a boat neckline and that will make your breast area, minimize the area. >> and avoid cleavage. >> and avoid cleavage it h. it has a little detail, leather, leather like lace is huge for

fall. it is just so attractive on roz. she's got all -- >> i love her shoes too. >> $89. >> pay less or something like that? >> nine west. $89, great shoes. leopard is big for fall. we have got the three-quarter length sleeve, so it is very flatter and elongates her arms. >> so roz is wearing black. but we're going to talk about ways you can look slim without wearing the color black, right? >> women tend to turn to black. >> especially in new york. like a city of black all the time. >> shelly told us my whole closet is black. give me some color. what is great for fall, lots of jewel tones are in. navies, purples, burgundys. >> that's pretty. i love those tights. >> fabulous eggplant color, this dress is so flattering, nips at the waist, sleeveless, which is going to elongate her. look at the tights. >> those are beautiful. >> see the vertical stripes. they'll elongate her leg and you match your tight to your shoe, a little bandolino boot, it will

elongate your body. what i love about the dress, big necklaces are in for the fall. and it also elongates this necklace is built into the dress. this is eliza j, $138, very expensive. >> that's great. >> if you need to get your own necklace, it would cost more than that. >> darling. >> thank you. thank you, shelly. next you say accessories can help make you look thinner, right? >> accessories can make you look thinner. here is miranda, miranda's problem she tells us is she's wide in the hips and in the thigh area. >> looks darn good to me. >> she's 5'6". when she comes out, you'll see how tall she looks. let's start with the pants. we putter in skinny jeans. you buy skinny jeans you want them in a dark wash and make sure that the pockets sit on your butt and in the on your thighs. pair it with this jacket. look at this jacket, pinstriping going on, that's going to elongate her. the sleeve, most people put their jackets on, they are in

the house, roll up your sleeve, it will elongate your arm. many jackets in the fall now have beautiful satin linings so they look really pretty. necklaces, long, long necklaces will elongate the front of her look. a hollywood secret, put a choker on when you wear long necklaces because it will bring the eye up, make the neck look longer and give her the illusion of being taller. >> why didn't you do her shoes in the same basic colors? >> very good question. a neutral shoe against her skin tone will make her body look longer. match the shoe to the skin tone and it will make your whole look and appearance -- >> they all look beautiful. >> thank you, ladies. your friend should have come. >> she should have. >> good job, good job. up next, first family of food is cooking up a feast. you know who they are. >> the scottos are here. love them. [ female announcer ] we're made to mix.

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kitchen" and we're getting saucy with the scottos. >> that means pure chaos. marion, john, anthony and elaina owl all in the house. hello, happy family. >> we're happy to be here. >> we always know we're in for a treat when the scottos are here. >> we're doing pappardelle with sausage and wild mushrooms, just like my sons. they're wild. so now we're going to begin with olive oil. some garlic. >> and what is that you have in there? rosemary? >> we put some rosemary. >> i love fresh rosemary. >> yes. and now we'll put in some onion, carrots, celery. >> would you stir that for me? >> i would be delighted. >> these are our wild mushrooms that i sauteed before. >> that already sounds good. >> okay. and i want everybody to know they should saute them before they -- >> why? >> well, it takes a little longer. >> okay. >> in olive oil, is that how you

saute them? >> olive oil and garlic. garlic is our perfume. >> oh, yeah. >> heaven. >> and we're going to put a little -- >> salt. >> salt and a little pepper. and would you give me some of that sausage? >> sure. >> and, again, dump it in. >> the whole thing? >> yes. >> you are crazy. >> this is craziness. >> i'm going to turn it over to snooki. >> snooki. >> snooki's going to hit some red wine. >> don't be cheap. >> a little red wine. and we're stirring to get all the meat and vegetables up and then we're going to add some beef stock. >> okay. >> stirring it all in the same pot. we're going to then add some tomato sauce which you already have prepared. and we are going to simmer this for about -- >> oh, my gosh. >> so good. it is going to be amazing. >> -- about 15 minutes.

>> the sauce is so good. >> then we're going to add heavy cream. >> there it goes. i can't have it. >> yes, you can. >> we're going to cook this for about 30 minutes. >> what happened to your voice? why are you squeaking? >> puberty. >> and now the pasta. >> okay. now the pot is not big enough. >> the pot is not big enough. this is what it looks like, served every day at fresco by scotto. >> what is it called on the menu? >> pappardelle with wild mushrooms and sausage. >> let's talk about my osso buco. previous segments had osso buco, but this is -- >> this is the only one. >> i started with some bacon and i want the fat to stay in there. i floured the osso buco, salted

and peppered it and browned them. not cooking them, just browning them. once we have done that. >> yes. >> put in the vegetables, carrots, celery, onions, let that simmer for a couple of minutes. salt and pepper. a little garlic. >> mm-hmm. >> we like to add a little butter. the butter will just brown a little bit more. >> how good is that? >> are you following me here? >> no. >> mm-hmm. >> a little white wine. add a little white wine. a little chicken stock, okay? we're going to cover this. >> uh-huh. >> for an hour and a half to two, 350. >> come on down. >> it will look like this. >> beautiful. >> we're going to add some orange segments to this with pine nuts, just unbelievable, okay? >> pine nuts. >> oh, that's saucy. >> so, listen, we're going to talk about what we're making. it is a chocolate cake, bittersweet, look at the ingredients.

four ingredients, mix it all together, bake it. >> what is that? what is this? >> these are almonds. >> eggs and chocolate. >> and just sugar and bake it, 350, and isn't that fabulous? >> that's fabulous. i can't believe your brother hogged all the time. >> we had to talk about his osso buco. an john was getting his meat up. he said i want to bring the meat up. and that's great. >> on that note, we'll be back with more of "today" on nbc.

all right, so, "okay" magazine asks us is it okay or not okay to -- >> tweet your bikini pic. >> okay. you say not mine. hoda said, why not? you wear it on the beach for all to see, but remember this, memories of a saturday on the beach fade. internet pics live on forever.

you're right, hoda woman. it is called narcissism. it is rampant in our culture. >> hey, sara. >> you had some fans on the wall, chef jules wrote in, i love it when hoda says go at breaks in songs. go, hoda, go, hoda. >> mom is here tomorrow. >> she is fantastic. [ male announcer ] as the ceo of hp,

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